Should the Offical Sonic Twitter which reference to Kill la Kill and Gurren Lagann count as like a crossover here? Undylan (talk) 17:57, June 13, 2015 (UTC)
Unless it's IN A GAME or any other media that involves a story, then no.
-Oishi
- I should enter it as Note.-- 16:20, January 2, 2017 (UTC)
Sonic x Sanrio[]
I was gonna write this in the summary of my edit, but I tought I'd put it here in greater detail for future reference.
Well about these Sonic Sanrio characters, at first I was gonna consider them just Sanrio characters with Sonic outfits, since that's what they look like, but there basically was a technical problem.
First of all, keep in mind that "Sanrio" is a company, it's not a series: Hello Kitty, My Melody, etc. are series. According to our naming conventions, Sonic x Sanrio is a Sonic release with a company name in the title, basically counting more like "Sonic merchandise by Sanrio". So this this can't be considered a direct crossover, and Sonic had to be linked to singular series; the problem though is that considering them costumes would have logically meant a type 2 link towards the Sanrio series, but that's technically impossible since they appeared in the Sonic x Sanrio series, which, as I mentioned, counts as Sonic merchandise, NOT as Hello Kitty, My Melody, etc. merchandise.
So putting together all the crossover rules, the only right way to consider this collaboration was to consider them type 1 links toward the Sonic series: these are Sanrio characters appearing in the Sonic series dressed up as Sonic characters. Even though they don't have actual interactions with Sonic characters or the sonic world, they're actually appearing in the flesh, within a Sonic release (Sonic x Sanrio), even if it's just a plush doll line.
Only AFTER making this decision, I figured they are never officially stated to be Sanrio characters in Sonic costumes, but rather "mash-up characters", making it easier for everybody to accept them as type 1 links, so I went with this version.
Now I still have a couple of doubts:
- I don't know Sanrio very well, so I don't know if these four characters should really be considered different series, or if they can be all be considered the Hello Kitty series for example. I mean, I know at least some have appeared in Hello Kitty cartoons and stuff, but I wonder if they were created as independent characters with the cartoons being crossovers, and if that's the case, should they really be considered series? If they were created just as merchandise, without a story, then maybe it would be more appropriate to consider them Mascots...
- Maybe even after all that thing about "Sanrio" just being a company name, these might still be singular releases in each Sanrio series, so all four dolls are part of the Sonic series but the Sonic/Hello Kitty doll could still count as a Hello Kitty release, and same for the other three. If that's the case, then these might be considered actual crossovers.
- But I don't know. I might make my mind when I get around to doing reseach on Sanrio.--Kombatgod (talk) 02:08, October 22, 2016 (UTC)
- Summary links because,i'm not sure but i think i saw various characters from Sanrio company in Sonic Dash.-- 12:24, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
Sonic X Sega Superstars[]
I think that now the Sega Superstars series is in mid-spin off, because now he has Sonic & Sega all stars racing, trasformed and a comic inspired by the latter.--
20:03, December 17, 2016 (UTC)- No.They are crossover between Sonic.-- 17:35, December 19, 2016 (UTC)
Sonic X Sega Mega CD/Sega CD[]
So here I put a note for everyone.Just because Sonic appears in the intro of the Sega Mega CD / Sega CD, does not mean that you have to connect to all Sonic games for the console, it's very known that is often used in intri of companies to introduce themselves at the beginning of a movie , video games, etc.So it does not count because it is also a Sonic that is still and there is no plot. I just wanted to put a note to avoid confusion to others.--
20:24, December 19, 2016 (UTC)Sonic (Sega)?[]
Why was the page moved from Sonic to Sonic (Sega)? Is there another series titled Sonic?--Kombatgod (talk) 20:30, April 20, 2017 (UTC)
- Whatttttttt??????? Why this?--CavaX 14:55, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
Bean the Dynamite is a Dynamite Dux[]
Zakor1138 (talk) 00:04, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
- Wow, I don't know how I missed that Bean is based on Dynamite Dux! Even if there wasn't an in-universe relation, it would still be a type 3 link. You've given me a lot to think about...
- After long meditation, and some research I think there are at least two different problems here:
- What was the creators' intent when putting Bean in Sonic the Fighters? The character is designed almost the same as Bin, except for the color; also the name is spelled the same in japanese, even though it's different on-sceen. So:
- Bean is a character only based on Bin, a reference to an old Sega game, it should count as a type 3 link.
- Bean actually is a redesigned Bin, and the difference in name is just a transliteration mistake (it happens all the time in japanese games, it's no big deal), or maybe it was intended to be a duck in the same species (let's ignore that in the original game Dux was actually a human turned duck), either way it counts as type 1.
- The guide to Fighters Megamix reveals that Bean is actually Bin's son, what does that mean? A strategy guide technically counts as non-fiction, but of course a revelation in it counts as Word of God and should be noted. So:
- The Word of God revelation creates a backstory to the Sonic character, either upgrading the type 3 link to a type 1, or confirming the type 1 (if he was originally intended to be Bin, then they are explaining the redesing and name difference, if he was intended to be the same species then they are adding an actual connection between the characters); the link might or might not also be noted in the Fighters Megamix page.
- That only counts as a reference in the Fighters Megamix series/game, so we should add the type 1 link there, and keep the Sonic link to the Dynamite Dux series as it is.
- Phew... Now, I'd like to hear other people's opinions, but I vote for 1 and 2.
- Different name AND different look means different character, and there's no bio telling any backstory in Sonic the Fighters making this any more than a type 3 link. They tought about giving him an actual tie to Bin only in Fighters Megamix, especially since that game actually features Bin as an alternate costume for Bean! (yeah, that too is a problem, but I think it would only count as type 2, or a "cosplay", since it doesn't change the on-screen name) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in StF characters only had one outfit, and all mirror matches were against a black and white clone, even in PvP.
- I could have just given a direct answer, but I'm open for other people's opinions, and I also wanted to express all my conflicting toughts, so that future generations can see how torn my existence is.--Kombatgod (talk) 19:16, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
- Considering the mention of Bin being Bean's parent was in the Fighter's Megamix guide, I'd think it makes more sense to be on that page rather than here on Sonic. Even crazier, is that on the roots headline, it mentions his roots are from Dynamite Dux in addition to Sonic the Fighters. [1]. Zakor1138 (talk) 21:07, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
sonic x felix the cat[]
so,from what i've heard sonic was modeled after felix the cat....does that count as a link
- So after some research, It was basically only the head shape, so I wouldn't say there's enough the contribute a link
- -Dragonsblood23
- Yeah some vague inspiration or influence shouldn't be a link. Back when I started I did include something like thatbut I've since removed them because they're too weak; for it to be a link the character should actually be based on another to the point that you could say it's an unofficial alternate universe version of him.--Kombatgod (talk) 06:37, June 9, 2020 (UTC)